In this episode of the Joespeak! Podcast, Pastor Frank Oliver talks about coming up in a family involved in ministry for multiple generations, and his experiences as an educator, activist, and pastor. Frank talks about how his entrepreneurial ventures, from the restaurant business to the fitness space, reflect his desire to address health issues in the black community. From being a kid leading schoolyard prayer for his classmates’ safety, to monitoring current day protests, Frank shares how he saw the tradition of spiritual leadership translating to activism show up in his life and educational career. Finally, Frank offers observations on what this time of COVID-19 and racial unrest means for us socially, politically, and spiritually.